Originally posted by: OogyWaWaok, i had this same problem years back, but finally US mcD solved it around 1999. Now that I'm in tokyo, I'm having the same problem again.A plain cheesburger. Thats right, meat, cheese, bread, nothing else. No shit ketchup/mustard, old lettuce, etc. Just processed dog meat and rat cheese only pleaseEvery time I order they spend a minute or two taking off the pickles, mustard, etc. On the computer. They also look at me like 'wtf.who would eat a burger without all the extra shit on it?'

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For the record, it isnt a language problem. My japanese in the case is perfect.anywho, does anyone else order their burgers plain.

Originally posted by: PaperdocMy son does this all the time - he strongly dislikes vegetables, mustard, ketchup.Reminds me of the scene in 'Easy Rider' when Jack Nicholson's character wants just plain bread and butter in a middle-of-nowhere restaurant. Waitress says they don't have that, and dialogue goes something like this:OK, I'll have a chicken sandwich. You have that, don't you?Yes. Chicken Sandwich.And miss - hold the lettuce, hold the mayo, hold the salt & pepper and hold the chicken! Yeah, we had a diner in town that had a double burger for a while, then they took it off the menu. But still had the same burger patties, just served as a single burger. The first time I went after they took it off the menu, I ordered it as normal: 'I'll take the double burger'The waitress said 'Oh, we don't have that any more'.I said, 'Well, you still have the patties, can you make me a double burger?'

And she said, 'Oh, yeah, we can do that'It's still not on the menu these days, but now at the bottom of the menu with all the extras (bleu cheese, bacon, etc) there's an option listed for another burger patty. I dont give a fuck. I'm odd no matter what i do. People hand me forks spoons and start blabbering senseless english despite flawless (ok well maybe the accent needs work) japanese coming out of my mouth.on top of that, we are talking mcD.

Its a fucking american company. I totally do not agree with this stance on japanese culture in any circumstance. I've had plenty of japanese friends request their meals be fixed due to store fuckup. This is in tokyo, chiba, and tochigi.maybe some of the more rural places are stricter to the old ways. This is probably more the problem than anything.

Here, they will ask, 'Stay here or take away?' Instead of 'For here or to go?' I cannot tell you how friggin long it took me to understand what the hell they were asking. The accent, even from people that have lived in English speaking countries, can still cause problems with fluent speakers. I have a coworker that learned his English on the mainland and I think Hong Kong is the first time he has talked to native speakers.

I have so much frustration with him because he pronounces the majority of the words incorrectly. His vocabulary and grammar are not bad, it's the accent that causes the problems.Good show on the Black Ship reference. You should dress up as the Commodore for Halloween and impose gunboat diplomacy at every bar you hit. I can see the argument from the accent, but i don't think it is the issue. Sure sometimes I mumble and I have to repeat myself or whatever, but as soon as they understand, they always, always are like 'uhhh.really?' And confirm at least twice. And always with restructured phrases.

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First it is 'meat and cheese only? 'so.no sauce.no ketchup.no etc.'

'are you sure?' Ugh.i guess i'll just start eating more gyudon or something. Although i get the same shit there. 'yes i want two raw eggs instead of one. The portion size is double god dammit!' Lol.i need to find some more old grandpa teishoku places. They give you the stink eye when you come in, but they refuse the be lenient on your japanese and if you fuck it up it is your fault.

But at least they don't google at you when you tell them what you wantalthough, i can understand it more at a regular japanese restaurant. They don't believe you know Japanese and must make sure your puny gaijin mind is comprehending what you are ordering.

I always laugh when they ask me if i can read japanese after i JUST put down the fucking menu and ordered. 'Why no, actually I guessed the meaning of this ancient fish kanji and I managed to blurt out something that sounded just like its name.' I:heart: Japan. Originally posted by: OogyWaWai can see the argument from the accent, but i don't think it is the issue. Sure sometimes I mumble and I have to repeat myself or whatever, but as soon as they understand, they always, always are like 'uhhh.really?' And confirm at least twice.

And always with restructured phrases. First it is 'meat and cheese only? 'so.no sauce.no ketchup.no etc.' 'are you sure?' Ugh.i guess i'll just start eating more gyudon or something. Although i get the same shit there. 'yes i want two raw eggs instead of one.

The portion size is double god dammit!' Lol.i need to find some more old grandpa teishoku places. They give you the stink eye when you come in, but they refuse the be lenient on your japanese and if you fuck it up it is your fault. But at least they don't google at you when you tell them what you wantalthough, i can understand it more at a regular japanese restaurant. They don't believe you know Japanese and must make sure your puny gaijin mind is comprehending what you are ordering. I always laugh when they ask me if i can read japanese after i JUST put down the fucking menu and ordered. 'Why no, actually I guessed the meaning of this ancient fish kanji and I managed to blurt out something that sounded just like its name.'

I:heart: Japan. I dont give a fuck. I'm odd no matter what i do.

People hand me forks spoons and start blabbering senseless english despite flawless (ok well maybe the accent needs work) japanese coming out of my mouth.on top of that, we are talking mcD. Its a fucking american company. I totally do not agree with this stance on japanese culture in any circumstance. I've had plenty of japanese friends request their meals be fixed due to store fuckup. This is in tokyo, chiba, and tochigi.maybe some of the more rural places are stricter to the old ways.

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